299. Feel Better At Any Age When You Learn How Hormones Work

This week on the podcast I speak with Robin Nelson, board certified Integrative Nutritionist, who has been specializing in women’s health and hormone balance for the pas 20+ years all about understanding your hormones. 

In this episode Robin and I talk about:

• Feeling old at a young age
• Choosing yes and choosing yourself 
• Picking a healing path
• Cleaning your energy 
• Major 6 hormones
• The hibernating bear and your metabolism 
• Like the weather, everything passes 

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Transcript

Welcome And Why Embodiment Matters

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Welcome to the Rochelle Christian Podcast. I'm Rochelle, your host. I'm here to help you come back to your body, take charge of your emotions, and live life on your terms. This podcast is a space for raw, real conversations about what it means to trust yourself, lean into your power, and create a life that feels aligned and alive. We'll explore human design, astrology, and other tools to help you understand your unique energy. More importantly, though, we're gonna talk about what it means to actually live and embody these aspects. So each week I'm gonna share stories, lessons, guidance to help you navigate life's challenges and really own your magic. So if you're ready to step up, take control, and show up as the most authentic version of you, let's begin. Welcome back to another episode on the podcast. This week I'm talking to Robin Nielsen, who is a board-certified integrative nutritionist who has been specializing in women's health and hormone balance for the past 20 years. She empowers women to become the CEO of their health so they can feel vibrant, confident, and sexy at any age. And you can tell just by speaking to Robin how she feels in her body. And this has been a huge focus for me recently and something I'm diving more into. I just put out a call for more guests on the podcast that specialize in health, in body, because being a Taurus, this has always been so important to me. I've always been very aware of my body. Because we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, right? We're in a human body for a reason. And to separate the body from the spirit is doing the entire experience a disservice. And I think it's so important to come inside and feel our body, nourish ourselves properly. I was sitting in journaling this morning, and what came through so strongly because I've been in so much more conversation with God, universe, source, spirit, whichever term you prefer, and just having a conversation just every day in every situation, aligning myself better and feeling better has always been a priority to me. But anyway, so I was sitting there this morning journaling, and what came through was around food. So I have been plant-based, primarily plant-based, for the past 15 years. And of course, nowadays, being plant-based, I mean, it never has meant that you are healthy because there's so many alternatives, there's still processed food. But what came through really strongly was that the food so many of us are consuming right now is specifically designed to keep us heavy and dense energetically. It's added, you know, they add so many flavors and sugars, and and you know, we get this dopamine hit that keeps us coming back for it. And when we talk about food, I'm reading a book called, I think it's called When Love is Food, but it talks about how we emotionally attach to food. So when we feel out of control in certain areas of our life, we can feel in control in a sense with our food, or vice versa, right? Well, we feel out of control with our food and overeat or overconsume consume, or we're constantly having the sugar hits, or constantly whatever it is, then it's like when we can be out of control in one area, we can be in control in another area. And so the our relationship to our food is a mirror for the relationship we have in a lot of other ways. I mean, everything is energetics, right? Everything is energy. And I think that's so much more right now. We're all sensing that, whether we're conscious of it or not. It's just like social media, like growing a business. We're growing and doing things in a time where the old systems and structures are broken. They do not work anymore, and yet we're still not fully in this new way of doing things. So those of us doing things a little bit differently, it can feel sticky, it can feel like we're not quite doing it right. I think there's a lot of isolation just in the sense of that not everybody is quite doing it that way yet. And it's just like Aquarius, right? Aquarius is the outlier, it's the rebel, it's doing things differently that the the collective doesn't quite understand yet, but we're catching on. And so again, everything is energetics right now. And if we want to elevate our consciousness, we're all on a specific path for a specific reason. And so whatever your calling is, is your calling, right? But I think that this conversation is so important to our evolutionary journey. As I'm recording this today, Pluto Stations Retrograde, and any planet in a retrograde move movement motion, um internalizes the energy. And so Pluto is the soul itself, as said by Jeff Green. Pluto is our a huge part of our evolutionary purpose and process. And so Pluto is retrograde for half the year, which means half of us were born with Pluto retrograde, half of us were born with Pluto direct. But when Pluto is retrograde, there is something transforming inside. We're beginning to question things. So if you're looking at it from an evolutionary perspective, half of us were born to question the status quo. Half of us were born to question what everybody says is normal. Half of us are individuated in that way. And there's nothing wrong with those of us who don't question. We all have our different purpose, and there's so much to your birth chart for your purpose and your evolution. But Pluto in itself is having us question what we don't normally question. Pluto and Aquarius is doing things differently. Systems are crumbling. That was Pluto and Capricorn. Pluto and Capricorn showed us all the holes, all of the ways the system is failing us and the ways that the system does not work. Pluto and Aquarius is rebuilding in a way that supports the collective. I was listening to not a podcast, but a astrologer talking about just the transits. But they were talking about how, so you might be familiar, over the weekend, spirit like literally overnight, just like shut down everything. And this astrologer was talking about how actually Spirit is now crowdfunding, I think is what they call it. So you can pledge uh X amount of money, whether it's$45, which is the average price of a ticket on Spirit Airlines, up to like I think$2,500, which is the most. But the goal is that if we get enough people, just people, you, me, whoever, to fund Spirit Airlines that they can reopen and they will be owned by the people. There will be no billionaire sitting pulling the strings, it will be owned by the people. And I was like, that is such a Pluto and Aquarius thing. We're giving the power, which is Pluto, power control, we're giving the power to the people. So of course I ran and uh I ran and and pledged uh to be a part of that because then you know whoever contributes owns the the uh company and you get a certain amount of votes, right, for however much you've pledged. But anyway, I just thought that that was such a an aquarium thing to do, and especially again now with again, Pluto stationing retrograde today. So, again, all of that being said, yes, we have this soul's purpose, we have this evolutionary purpose, we have this way of being in this path and this journey, and the body is so important. And the reason why I believe so many healers feel disease or illness in their body is because these healers are holding a certain amount of light, and the body, due to the food it's consuming, just because this is a 3D world, can't necessarily it has to expand to be able to hold the amount of light that a lot of the souls right now are coming in with. And so that creates disease. I was reading a book and it was talking about one soul that came in, and the woman who uh was having this experience was depressed for her whole life. She didn't understand like why she felt so different, why she felt so isolated, and did a past or she did a regression, a past life regression, which turned into just like a soul. Um, they connected with her soul, and basically she was like, this was what basically her first incarnation in the human body, and she was like came from a plane of pure light and love. And the body, it's it, it it in its 3D-ness, it can be challenging to hold that much light and love and energy. And she was born with a heart issue, and the lesson just as a newborn baby to those around her was just the power of prayer and the power of love. And through speaking to the subconscious and the soul, was able to understand that the prayer and the love of those around her helped heal that and stuff like that. So, like it is possible we we get an energetic upgrade. I've been having so many, so much uh conversations, again, like I said, with gore gods, gorse, god source universe spirit of just like visualizing all of my cells just in bright white, healing light, just feeling vibrant and energized and good in my body. And it just when you walk with that awareness through your day, it helps you choose more nutritious foods. I'm trying to cook at home more and just really getting more strict on my rules when it comes to food. So five ingredients or less, everything that I can pronounce, no, no additives, no, like you know, whatever. Um, and just basically it being real, real food. Like I made banana bread last night, and it was just like there's nothing in it. And I don't feel bad with my kids eating it. And again, we all have our own path, but um, so anyway, so yeah, I think that this uh conversation is really important and really potent. And yes, we get into the science and the major six hormones, but we also get into affirmations, we also get into the soul, we also get into spirituality, we also get into energetics. So it's a really beautiful conversation, and I hope that you love it. Uh, you can connect with Robin. All the links will be down below. You can take her quiz, her um hormone quiz that she shared was so generous and shared with um you. I'm trying to just find it here. Oh my gosh, where'd it go? Okay. So her um complete hormone quiz. I took the quiz and my results were uh uh low cortisol. Uh, there's three different parts. One was high cortisol, one was low, and then one was low progesterone. So those were the results that I got. And she gives you um videos and explains it. It's really beautiful. Um, so again, if you're feeling tired and wired, tired butt wired, if you're struggling with little energy, mood swings, stubborn weight, um, it's really time to take charge of your health. So you can take her complete hormone quiz to discover your level of hormone and balance across the six key hormones that she addresses. Uh, so you can better understand how your body is functioning and identify clear steps towards healing. And so, yeah, so all of that is available in the show notes. Just click the buttons and find your way to Robin. You can connect with me on Instagram, on TikTok, on Substack, on YouTube. It's all at Rochelle Christian, R-O-C-H-E-L-L-E. C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-E. Astro Design Collective is available as well. It is$10 a month. You can join. I'm doing daily, weekly astrology transits, human design information. We're doing embodiment challenges. So right now we're going through the moon phases, and then we're gonna start the gene keys afterwards because I'm really feeling into the Venus sequence lately. So we're gonna be starting that. So basically, it's just update every single day. I'm starting a or I'm launching a new offering. Um, it will be a reading. So you can either get just your PDF blueprints, you can do a pre-recorded or a completely live, really deep dive. There's gonna it's gonna be tiered. So I will have that available within the next week. So check back for that. Otherwise, I hope that you enjoy the episode. Share with a friend if you find it helpful. Um, rate review, subscribe on Spotify. It's just those five stars. You just have to click them and or whatever you feel that it's worth. It really helps the podcast just to get out to more ears. So I thank you so much. I'm so grateful for you. Uh, whether this is your first time listening, whether you've listened to 10 episodes or all of them, I am so grateful for each and every one of you. Welcome to the podcast. Today I have Robin Nielsen, who is a women's hormone expert, founder and CEO of Natural Hormone Solution. And I'm really excited to have this conversation because, you know, I think a lot of the audience as well is in this phase where, you know, aging is, you know, I don't, I'm of the mind that we can, like you kind of said offline, we can feel good at any age. I feel better in my 30s than I did in my 20s. And I know it's, you know, we have a misconception, I think, around, or maybe just doctors kind of slap diagnoses on us and there's little knowledge. And so I think this conversation is really important to educate and to understand how we can work with, you know, our hormones and what they mean. So I would like to start with just, you know, you sharing kind of like your story, right? Your backstory, anything pivotal that happened that sort of like got you to where you're at today, doing what you're doing, and then we can just dive in from there.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Great, awesome. Yeah, I felt old when I was young. So, um, you know, when I was in my late teens, I had uh I had acne on my face, my chest, and my back. And uh, you know, if you've ever experienced any sort of skin blemishes, you know how debilitating it can be. It's embarrassing and you feel guilty that you don't know how to fix it and you feel a lot of shame around it. And um uh yeah, all very, very low vibrations, right? All these really horrible feelings that um that I took the credit for, right? I I took credit for uh for the acne. And uh today I wouldn't take credit for anything that was happening in my body. So that's one thing. We need to stop taking credit for what's going on and just figure out how to fix it. Um, I also could gain five pounds in a day for no good reason. So uh I felt like um, you know, my body had a mind of its own and it was just kind of doing its thing and I was at its mercy, basically. It was at a time, I think, when, you know, we felt like our brain and our bodies were two separate entities, our head and our bodies were two separate entities. I'm like, my body's just gone rogue. And uh I was headed off to Yellowstone for the summer and I had receding gums and receding enamel on my teeth. And so I was very sensitive to hot and cold foods. And so the dentist handed me a tube of sensedine toothpaste, which kind of numbs you out and said, here you go, you know, this should help. So I went off to Yellowstone to work for the summer using my sensedine toothpaste so that I could eat, basically. And um, and then things just progress from there. So I think it's really important for us to know that if you have one or two symptoms, they don't really get better unless you start really uh healing your body. You just get more symptoms, and the symptoms come based on your genetics, right? And kind of what you're exposed to. So um we uh symptoms show up so uh and they're um just a message that you know our bodies are out of balance. So then going to my you know early 20s, mid-20s, I started to get arthritic symptoms in my hands. Um, you know, we had horses and I would carry a bucket out to the barn and it would just drop out of my hand. I wasn't able, you know, I didn't have the grip strength because I had very sore hands, very sore fingers. And I also started to get varicose veins uh behind my knees. And um, you know, if you've ever had varicose veins, they're painful, they're ugly. And um, you know, I was young and I thought that that was an older person's thing, but um, I didn't pay a lot of attention because that wasn't my biggest thing, right? I was really worried about what the outward world was seeing, you know, which was my skin issues. I still had acne on my face, my chest, and my back, and I still could gain five pounds in a day for no good reason. So I was focused there. And I was trying to resolve that. And like most of us, we under eat and we over-exercise to solve the weight problem. Like that's how we roll as women. So then as I moved into my early 30s, I still had all the same issues. I still had the acne, the weight gain, the varicose veins, the arthritic symptoms in my hands, but I had horrible digestive problems. I was constipated for years. I had no idea that that wasn't um normal, right? Um, my family didn't talk about bowel movements. Surprise, surprise. And so um, yeah, so I, you know, had a lot of cramping in my abdomen and I started to get kind of tired. You know, I've been pushing through for a lot of years. Um, I was ignoring my symptoms for the most part, and I was just trying to address my skin and the weight. And so I just kept getting more and more symptoms. I had horrible moods. I had um, you know, uh anxiety, I was depressed, I was grumpy, I was irritable. Turns out it wasn't um, it wasn't my spouse two weeks out of the month. It was, you know, it was me and you know, kind of what I was going through. So, you know, terrible mood swings. And as I kind of hit my mid-30s, I crashed and burned, you know. I um had been really busy and I remember driving home from work one day and uh I had a meltdown. You know, I started sobbing and I felt like I wasn't doing a good job at anything. I had two boys and I felt like I wasn't being a good mom. I wasn't, you know, being a good spouse, I wasn't doing a good job at work. I was left work, you know, on my desk when I left, which of course is common, but you know, wanted to get it done. It was an overachiever. So I vowed right then and there to figure my stuff out and uh to age me a little bit. That was before Dr. Google. So uh I didn't know how I was gonna figure it out. We had the Merck manual at home, but that wasn't very helpful for you know natural solutions. And so um I said yes to every opportunity that showed up after that pivotal moment in my life. And uh here I am today, uh helping women um, you know, feel fabulous no matter what their age, no matter what their circumstances, what their situation, uh, because I healed everything. So once I went back to school, I trained out an endocrinologist, literally I said yes to everything that came my way. And ladies, when you choose, uh everything starts showing up to help you achieve that. It's just how energy works. And Rochelle's the perfect one to teach you this. And uh, you know, the including, so my skin completely, you know, healed. I wouldn't have ever been able to wear, you know, a scoop neck top top like this. Um the I never had a weight issue anymore. I never had to diet, right? Um, I didn't have to over-exercise. My gums grew back, the enamel on my teeth grew back. I didn't have to use that crazy numbing toothpaste anymore. Varicose veins completely healed. I had um I had a weird symptom. I had rough elbows. I don't know if you've ever experienced rough elbows, probably really rough elbows. I thought it was a lotion problem. Turns out it's not a lotion problem, it's an inside job. So um, rough elbows healed um arthritic symptoms and my hands completely went away. Um, I wasn't tired anymore. I got my energy back. So um, you know, we as women we experience a lot of symptoms, you know, like hair loss and hercytism, that dark coarse hair growth. Um uh, I don't know, you name it, we we, you know, experience it. And, you know, if I had uh gone to the doctor at some point, I would have been diagnosed with PCOS, polycystic ovary syndrome, because of the androgenic activity that I was experiencing with the acne, you know. Um, but you know, PCOS is like any other diagnosis, it's just a cluster of symptoms, and it can be different for every woman. And there are many, many drivers. So I'm very thankful that I didn't have a diagnosis because a lot of times I feel like a diagnosis keeps us stuck. You know, it's the reason why we can't heal. So I'm really grateful that I didn't have that diagnosis. But in hindsight, I could see, you know, that uh that's kind of what was happening.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

Yeah. Well, there's so much of what you said that I so resonate to in what my own personal experience have been in just, you know, I mean, like the acne, even up until this probably this past year, I had what I just assumed was like hormonal acne around my period, you know, and it's started clearing up over the last like couple months. Um, but yeah, being tired, I I'm like part of me is like, I just don't know if I'm a morning person because like, you know, I have to wake up at 5 30 to get my kids to school, you know, Monday through Friday. And I just something. Yeah. So I'm like, am I just not a morning person? That's why I'm like tired or Or is it something more, you know? Um, but I also love that you brought in energy because I'm I'm such a firm believer that you know, obviously every symptom that we have in our body is our body trying to tell us something, right? And we don't listen to it so often. Or, you know, I think the path of like whether it's motherhood or being career driven, we tend to like prioritize those things instead of ourselves. We just kind of like push it to the side until it becomes an issue that we can't escape, you know? And then, you know, like you said with the diagnoses, I think that um I don't want to say I don't go to the doctor, but there are certain things where I have that mindset where I'm like, I don't want to get a diagnosis and then have that shift the way that I see things or like believe that that's like it, the end all be all, you know. And it's not to say not to go the doctor, that's not what I'm saying. But I think that being conscious, right, that you're not attaching so strongly to these things that allows you to then, you know, do the work to move past them.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Yeah.

unknown 22:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

I mean, a diagnosis, if you have the right mindset, can can help you with a path to wellness. But you know, uh, most women don't get the diagnosis then, you know, they get it, and that's the reason why they can't be well. So then we just stay stuck.

unknown 23:14

Yeah.

Boundaries And No As A Sentence

SPEAKER_00 23:15

So we don't want to use a diagnosis as a reason why you can't be well. You want to use it as your kind of launching pad to figure it out. And because there's so many different symptoms associated with something like polycystic ovarian syndrome, um, it's just a catch diagnosis, like you know, all right, well, she has PCOS. Um, but it's very androgen driven. So that's a good indication. Um, but uh yeah, I mean, when you um when you pick a path and you start to heal, um magic happens, you know, and all you have to do is choose, you know, say yes to yourself instead of saying yes to everything and everyone else, you know, start start here. You know, that's that's where we're not raised to choose ourselves, you know, we grow up as people pleasers, you know, and um, you know, we want to we want love, you know, everyone wants to be loved. And the way, you know, girls, teenagers, you know, women um receive love is by you know being there for others. And we have a hormone, estrogen, that helps us uh a lot stay in that nurturing uh place until you know we get to perimenopause and then postmenopause when things really start shifting and testosterone becomes a bigger player, postmenopause. And that's when you start to get your voice and start to have an opinion. And um uh I want to use a cuss word here, but um, I don't know if it's appropriate. Yeah, you can. You don't give a flying fuck about um uh a lot of things, and you can feel into your body a lot faster, whether it's a hell yes or a no. And um so you don't want to wait until then to make that shift. You want to start, you know, tapping into your intuition a whole lot faster. And I know Rochelle's really good with helping you do just that and start choosing yourself more and start making better decisions for yourself because lo and behold, our head and our bodies are connected, and every single cell in your body experiences emotion. So, whatever your brain is feeling, your whole body is feeling, and that alone is a hormone deal breaker right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

So, how much of it like this? It seems like uh a cycle or a process, like a natural process of like, you know, youth and then coming into yourself, right? Like I, you know, even just being 39, I care so much less about what people think than I did 10 years ago, right? When I was in my 20s or my teens. Oh my gosh, like like you said, I found that if I people pleased, I would be accepted more, but I was never happy because I just wasn't being authentic to myself, right? So I think the older that you get. So how much of that is just like the process of aging and like, like you said, estrogen and then testosterone taking over, and how much of it is maybe just like conditioned of like society telling us like you have to act a certain way?

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Well, I think it's both. You know, I think it's if you better understand how your hormones work, you can work with them, you know, instead of against them. We have to work with our hormones if we want to be balanced. And there are six hormones that are really important for us to pay attention to. And there's a great saying that uh that is important to remember. Um, those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. And if you can just remember that, remember to, you know, uh row your boat, you know, um create your own trail. Uh, because um what you'll find is that, you know, people are very fickle, you know, and it doesn't matter how much you do for them, uh, it's not really about that. Everybody's about their own needs in the end. And so, you know, do what's right for you. I can give um an example of uh, you know, sort of a transition. No is a complete sentence. It's really hard to get to that place where you can just say no or no, thank you. You know, it's not for me right now. Um, but you can you can transition, you know, by saying things like, let me think about it.

unknown 28:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

And of course, if you have to think about it, it's a it's a hell no. Um, but it gives you that buffer to to to uh come up with another answer, which is eventually no. Um I was uh I was in Rotary International for uh a long time, for nine years, and um I was continually asked to be president, and I kept saying no, and uh because I'd been president of many associations and I thought you know I'm I'm done with that. Um uh but I was asked to be on the board. So I served for a year because I loved the president and uh I was so excited to get off the board, and then the new president coming in was a dear friend, and he asked me to be on his board. And I couldn't say no, right? You just there are times when you just don't feel like you can say no. So I said yes, of course, of course I'll be on your board. And I went home and I was every cell in my body was like, no, no, no, no, no, like what are you doing? So the next day I called Bob, Dr. Multhrub, he was my dentist, and I said, Bob, can I come over? He said, sure. And Bob was a crier, very emotional. So I went over to his house and I said, Bob, I said, I so want to support you, but I said, I just can't be on your board for a year. I just can't do it. Like every cell in my body says no. So we cried together and uh we hugged it out and I left. And within 24 hours, they had my position filled. So don't think that you're indispensable. I think that's where we get really caught up, is that we think that we're indispensable. And I definitely had that mindset because I don't know about you, but I can do it better and more efficiently than anyone else. Do you feel that way?

SPEAKER_03 30:37

Yeah, yeah. I mean, sometimes it's you know, I don't know if you're familiar with like astrology, but in astrology, I'm a Leo rising, right? And Leo's very much like the sh, you know, like look at me kind of energy. And so sometimes I think that I'm like, I'm so unique. Like, why wouldn't you want like just me?

SPEAKER_00 30:53

I know. Why wouldn't you want me? That's so cute. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and and so we have to get over ourselves, right? We have to get over ourselves and we have to uh let other people uh sink or swim. Yeah, you know, and so uh we do get to that point and don't wait till you know menopause to to feel into that. Start feeling into it into it right now. Like, you know, what are those things that you really want to be spending your energy on? We only have so much energy, and Rochelle mentioned energy as a big part of being well, and it is. If you have great energy, everything's working so much better. Your hormones are so much more balanced, you won't have all the symptoms, you know, that you might currently have. I'd love for you to take a moment right now and just write down like your top five health symptoms that you're experiencing, because we have to name it so we can change it. You know, I like I said, I was just focused on the acne and the um the weight gain. But if I'd really thought about it, I'm like, well, crap, yeah, varicose veins, they are no picnic, like receding, you know, teeth and uh and gums, or you know, no picnic, right? So, you know, what are those things that you're experiencing that if they weren't their life would be so much better? And then we're naming it so you can change it, you know, awareness is key. So um I really, I really love that. And uh, and then you know, stop taking credit for everything that's going on because it's not your fault. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

I love that. I, you know, a big part of my work with women is just kind of exploring your body so that you can understand what a no and a yes actually feels like in your body. Because once you I feel like once you understand that, there are times when I say yes when my body is saying no, but I feel like then I'm at least conscious of it, right? I'm not as resistant or I can come back, or I can say, Let me think about it if I know it's a no, but I feel really uncomfortable saying in the moment, right? It's an awareness of your system.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

And and and we're not gonna do everything that, you know, um, or not everything is gonna be a hell yes. I mean, there's some things that you just want to contribute, you know, maybe it's at your, you know, child school, or you know, maybe it's a project for someone else that you think is a really, you know, worthy cause. I mean, maybe you can get yourself to a hell yes on that. Um, but you have to start saying yes to yourself a whole lot more if you want to heal.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Yeah. My I tell my kids all the time. So I have my oldest is uh a girl, and then my my son is uh the younger one, but I tell them all the time, you know, especially my daughter, I'm like, no is a complete sentence, you know, because she was like, Well, what if so-and-so gets angry at me? I said, That's not on you that you have to put your foot down, right? And so, like it was last week. I asked my son to do something and he said no. And I said no. He goes, Mom, no is a complete sentence. And I was like, Oh, you need to reword what I just asked you to do because yeah, but but I I like that, you know, and like I think that again, like having the recognition and just the being like, let me think about it and that pause and coming into your you know yourself.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Yeah, it's a transition because it's hard for us. It was really hard for me to say no. I was the yes girl, you know. You and you know, the there's the whole adage, if you you know, want to get something done, give it to a busy person, right? And and I was definitely that, you know, and I I had been running on adrenaline for so many years, and and it's it's sort of the um I'm kind of calling this the fireman or the EMT syndrome, where you're you know on this adrenaline rush for years and years and years, and then you retire and your body breaks down because the adrenaline's not keeping you going anymore, and your body now has the capacity to heal, but pretty awful things show up when that adrenaline stops surging through your body, and you don't have to be a fire person or an EMT for this to be your way because when we're really tired, we need that adrenaline to get us going. So, you know, I was up early with my kids, you know, my husband and I ran a large company together. We were, you know, we get our coffee, we'd get a little pastry, we get into the office. I was go, go, go all day. And then, you know, I was president of another organization. And then um we would go home and at nights and on weekends, we'd go do these horse events that were timed. And so we'd be racing around the arena, you know, like it was crazy, but it was all adrenaline. And then, you know, we'd be between events and I'd be sitting there exhausted, but I could wake up for our go in the arena because I was so burnt out. So we have to stop running from one task to the next, and that is a symptom of hormone imbalance, by the way. So I did that for decades, running from one task to the next. So it's elevated cortisol, right? Your daytime hormone, which is, by the way, one of your major hormones. And she's the one that you want to pay attention to if you want good thyroid function, if you want to even make your sex hormones, progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone. You can't even make your sex hormones if cortisol and adrenaline are constantly elevated because you can't run from the tiger and make babies.

unknown 36:46

Right?

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Physiology just doesn't work that way. All of your resources have to go to saving your life instead of you know making reproductive or reproduction possible.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

That makes sense, yeah. Yeah. You had mentioned six hormones. So we have cortisol, progesterone, estrogen, testosterone. What are the other two that we should look for?

The Six Hormones To Track

SPEAKER_00 37:06

Yeah, insulin. So insulin is your other major hormone. So we have two major hormones, cortisol and insulin, which are super important to really learn about because when you get those two hormones in balance, then your mid-hormone, thyroid, right? Your thyroid produces a number of hormones, but thyroid is a compensatory gland. So it's gonna function kind of at the at the um at the rate of what your body can handle. It's responsible for metabolism, but it can't go too fast if your body's struggling. So it's gonna slow down. Um, I equate it to the hibernating bear. You know, the hibernating bear is lacking resources, it's lacking sunlight and potentially water and food. And so, you know, it stocks up when food is there and then it hibernates. But what that means is that the metabolism of the bear is so slow, um, just to keep those, you know, life-giving functions going, like breathing and heartbeat, right? There's no digestion happening, there's no making of any sex hormones, it's just um surviving to make it through. So when you know your metabolism slows way, way, way down, you're burning very few calories. And so that's what happens when we under eat. That's what happens when we overexercise. That's what happens when we're do-do-do doing, right? Our metabolism sort of just starts to slow down. And then we wonder why the next diet doesn't work. And it's because your metabolism is the hibernating bear, right? We need to give it food, right? Proteins, fats, carbohydrates. We need to give it vitamins and minerals. We need we need to flood our body with resources. That's what I eventually discovered was that my body was really lacking essential resources to build up. So there's a concept called uh building versus using, right? Building versus using. So we're either building our bodies up, we're building bone, we're building our muscle, we're getting stronger, you know, our liver's functioning well, we have good, happy brain chemistry, right? Um, or we're using, right? We're breaking down our bone, we're breaking down our muscle to feed ourselves, to go, go, go. You know, our brain chemistry is really depleted. So we're using way more than we're building. And we've got to get the building up higher than the using if we want to heal. And then at some point, maybe you can, you know, use as much as you build, you know, if you're still the go-go girl. But you've got to get that building, you've got to rebuild. And, you know, when we think about like osteoporosis and osteopenia and, you know, muscle wasting, that sarcopenia, right? Which is where we have too much fat to muscle. It's really easy to get that way if we're doing intermittent fasting. Um, you know, if we're uh not getting enough rest, if we're, you know, over exercising, all those things that we think are really healthy. Um, that's I was at a yoga class a couple weeks ago and I really liked what the instructor said. He started the studio here in Santa Barbara, it's a pretty famous studio. And he said, all those things like are working on the outside, right? Those are working on the outside, work on the inside. You know, work on the inside. I was diagnosed with osteopenia in my early 40s. I'm now 63. My mother and my grandmother both had hip replacements. In fact, I think my grandmother had more than one, two or three. And so that's in my you know, genetic profile. Um, but today my bones are strong. So, you know, you can reverse osteopenia, you can reverse osteoporosis. Um, you know, I know that this is a younger audience, but come on, like 41 diagnosed with osteopenia, like that's a thing. Yeah. You know, yeah. Does that make sense? The building versus using?

SPEAKER_03 41:17

Yeah, yeah, that definitely makes sense. And so when you had all of these symptoms, you know, that and I like that you said to write down your top five health symptoms because that really gives you clarity on it. But when you so you had all of these symptoms and you got to this point where you're like, okay, I'm just gonna say yes to everything. This was just like an energetic shift, right? Where you were just like being open to whatever the universe was gonna bring you.

SPEAKER_00 41:38

Well, I I decided. Okay. So I didn't I didn't say I was gonna say yes to everything. I chose to figure my stuff out. Like it was this pivotal moment where I said, I'm gonna figure my stuff out. Then all of these opportunities came, and that's when I said yes to them. Like you have to say yes to healing yourself. Um, but just know that if you don't say yes right now, another opportunity will come your way. So it's not this frantic, you know, we don't want to keep up the frantic pace, but it just happened for me that I was so motivated to figure my stuff out that I said yes to what came my way. Yeah. But the yes comes after the deciding.

SPEAKER_03 42:22

Yeah. So you decided and then these opportunities then came to you. And so, so it was more um more like an energetic shift at first, and then you started to feel better from exploring these different things. And then, like, so what what are the more like I guess practical, like day-to-day things that really supported you?

SPEAKER_00 42:42

Yeah, that's that's a good question. So I just want to say that when you choose you, when you decide that you're important and that you want to figure yourself out, your genes already start expressing themselves for the better. So you've already made this shift so that your genes are already going to be more on board. It's kind of a crazy thing to think about.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

Yeah.

Sleep Meals And Movement That Heal

SPEAKER_00 43:07

But just choose, just decide. I am sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. I choose me. Like let's figure this out. Um, so some of the so let me let's just back up to the hormones now, because I said that cortisol and insulin are our major hormones. Cortisol gets a bad rap. She gets called stress. But she's not we use her that way, but that's not her main function. Her main function is helping us do our day, right? She is our energy hormone for our day. But when we abuse her, when we're too busy or we're stressed out, or in a bad relationship, or we have some sort of infection going on that we don't know about and we don't address, or um, we're not managing our blood sugar or insulin, uh, then she elevates. And if she elevates because your brain thinks that there is a tiger, um, insulin comes right up along with her. Because insulin is the hormone that gets blood sugar from your bloodstream into your um cells so that you can run. And these days, you know, we're not running from a tiger for the most part. You know, most of us aren't, you know, afraid that someone's gonna kill us. Um, but our brain doesn't know that losing our car keys is not running from the tiger or being stuck in traffic or late for an appointment or, you know, um any sort of issues that we have with our kids, that's an urgent matter, right? That just feels like running from the tiger in your body. So if your cortisol and insulin are always elevated, you become insulin resistant, which by the way has all the same symptoms as perimenopause and postmenopause. Um, and uh, you know, you're not making your sex hormones because cortisol is elevated and all of your, you know, blood flow is going to your extremities. And all those things that help save your life. So thing, so when you learn that, then you start shifting how you respond to things. You start shifting your schedule, for instance. The to-do list is something that can really take us out. Don't have a to-do list. It's kind of a long story, but uh nothing on your to-do list is in your calendar. And so it's just one more thing. And it uh if you really think about it, it drives you absolutely crazy because you cross something off, but you add two more things on. And so it's it's all extra stuff that you never put in your calendar, but you still have to do. So, you know, come 10, 11 o'clock at night, you're still trying to get some things done on your to-do list, it just takes you out. Right. So, so when you think about what are those things that help me to balance cortisol and therefore balance insulin, it's things like when you eat, what you eat. If your blood sugar drops too low, that's a crisis. Right now, cortisol rises and insulin rises. So you can't let your blood sugar drop too low. You also can't let it get too high because that's a crisis. So you want to have your meal timing down. You want to start eating again. You know, breakfast, a high protein breakfast with an hour of waking, and a healthy high protein breakfast. Not the, you know, protein laden coffee at Dunkin' Donuts. Right. But the, you know, the really balanced, you know, you're a nutritionist, you know what that looks like. Um, a really balanced breakfast within an hour of waking, and then every four to six hours. So three meals a day. You want to eat more, probably, than you have been. You know, lots of vegetables, good healthy protein, um, some healthy fats in there, because they all have a purpose. And our body needs all the macros to function properly. You want to get good restorative sleep, a minimum of eight hours a night. Like sleep is the magic elixir of healing. Yeah, we can't get good sleep if we don't balance our cortisol during the day. That's a big takeaway, ladies. So if you have a um a crazy day, you're gonna have a crazy night. Cortisol is gonna keep waking you up. If you have a flowing day, you're gonna have a flowing night. So you want to think, how can I make my day flow? Like that is a game changer. And then you get eight hours of sleep a night. There is a huge difference between seven hours and eight hours. Many studies on seven hours actually shortening your lifespan. Wow. And many of us think seven is enough. Um, there's a uh there was a huge study um on eight hours of sleep versus um less than eight hours of sleep. Um there's a great book, Why We Sleep. It doesn't tell you how to get good sleep, it just tells you why we sleep. Why do we have to sleep? Why do we sleep? Especially for those of us who like to, you know, GSD, get stuffed dumb. Uh yeah, so um, so that's a basic thing, right? And getting good sleep and um and changing your thoughts around exercise. So are you exercising to support the inside of your body or are you exercising uh for the outside, you know, for what it looks like? And how is it a nourishing exercise for you? You know, we we were a lot of us have been told that you have to be at the gym for two hours if you want to see results, right? If you want to lose weight or if you want to build muscle or whatever it is, and if you're tired, you know, you're just using energy for that that you don't have. You know, so there's a little expression, don't overextend your chi. Right. So exercise for where you are right now. If you're really tired, just go walking for 15 minutes because then you know you you'll pull yourself out of the hibernating pair mode. You know, the whole thing is we gotta get we gotta get our metabolism working so that we have some energy. So if you don't have good energy, don't use it up exercising. I mean, aren't there more fun things that you want to do? Yeah, I can think of a lot. Yeah, you know, have fun in your life, like go laugh, like do do fun things and it just will totally shift you around. You know, there's a yoga class. Um, I just started doing yoga again. I actually do weights a couple times a week and I play tennis and golf and all these things outside, but you know, laughing yoga. You know, your your brain doesn't know the difference or your body doesn't know the difference between fake laugh and real laugh. And so it still helps you, you know, build all those great um hormones and neurotransmitters, regardless.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Yeah, I love that. And the movement piece, you know, anytime I'm like working with someone too, uh, it's like find something that you actually like because your body responds, you know. And I'm I love I I do like lifting weights. I like the challenge of it. I like going in, but I do notice like over the last year, my back started hurting a little bit. So it forced me to like really take a step back and not like keep pushing through it because it's not comfortable at that point, you know. So then I started going for longer walks or just like different things that still kept me in my body and moving, but weren't as like intense, you know. And I think that's really important listening to your body. You know, if you hate going to the gym or if you hate running, like don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

Yeah, why are you doing? I mean, there's so many that's the thing, you've got to do movement that is really joyful. You know, that's why I like playing tennis. I never thought I'd play golf, but I just picked it up because it doesn't, I don't have to push so hard. You know, tennis is kind of an adrenaline sport.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Um, and golf is not. So I really, you know, like that. I like to surf, you know, do things that are, you know, you get to sit a lot in the water and look at the sea life, you know. And so do things that, you know, put you more in the present moment. That was, I think, the biggest gift that I received from balancing my hormones and healing was I could be in the present moment um all the time. Like I can be here. I'm not thinking, you know, what I have to do after this, you know, or or my to-do list or anything. I'm just right here right now. So I can really enjoy this conversation. But there were, you know, oh my gosh, decades where I couldn't, you know, I was always on to the next thing before I was finished with the current thing. Yeah. And that's that's um, that's brutal.

SPEAKER_03 51:52

Yeah. Well, and yeah, you had you had mentioned like the to-do list and the being busy and like one thing after another and and with cortisol and everything. And I feel like that's why, you know, having whether it's an extended meditation practice or even just like pausing right before we move on to the next thing, like is so helpful in just keeping you calm because I'm very much like have always been just, you know, I'm a single mom working, so I'm just like next, next. Like there's not enough time in the day to do what I want to do, right? And once I really implemented in my own life, like a like everyday meditation, just like stuff stopped mattering as much. And I was like, I don't actually have to like do everything that I think that I have to do.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

Well, you're you're building your stress resilience. So you're not as obsessed, first of all. So your serotonin is building. You know, you don't have to, you don't have to um your well, your brain isn't obsessing, and when things come at you, they roll off you. You don't take it in and your body gets all jangled again. You're like, oh yeah, whatever, you know. And so that's a really huge practice that you brought in that is really shifting how your hormones communicate. Because if one hormone is out of balance, they're all out of balance. And really, you just have to pay attention to two cortisol and insulin. So get your fasting insulin checked, right? That's a that's a marker that most docs don't run anymore because insurance won't cover it unless there's some sort of diagnosis. But just insist and hopefully you'll get it done. Maybe you can order your own labs, but just you know, make get it down below 5.4. And you know, it's kind of crazy because things like plastics and BPA or BPA and plastics can raise insulin resistance because it binds to your insulin receptors. So it's more than just a bad diet, and that's really important to know it's poor sleep, right? It's what you eat. But if you're insulin resistant, you're not burning the sugar in your bloodstream, you're storing it as fat. So you really have to reduce the sugar you eat until your cells become more insulin sensitive. So you can't push yourself a lot because you don't have that sugar. So uh just walking for 15 minutes after every meal will improve insulin sensitivity by like 50%. Wow. Eat a good night's sleep, you know, eight hours of restorative sleep, unmedicated, by the way, will also really improve insulin sensitivity. That alone is a game changer. So just you know, know your number and just work on getting it down, pay attention. Magnesium is fantastic for improving insulin sensitivity. Um, it's you know, as good as metformin, you know. So, you know, replace those missing nutrients. You know, every single woman is really magnesium deficient, as I'm sure you've shared. So get your magnesium and it can change, you know, how you experience your menstrual cycle.

Endocrine Disruptors And Cleaner Products

SPEAKER_03 54:54

I love that. Yeah. You actually touched on two things that I wanted to ask about. The first one was, yeah, what outside of like diet and like those kinds of changes can we make as far as yeah, products? Like, because I I know, you know, hair products, makeup products, you know, things that were spraying in the air. My daughter bought like dry shampoo the other day and she sprayed it on her arm. Like this is like a week later. She still has like a burn. And I'm like, you should not be putting that on your head if it's doing that to your arm. Like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

So it's really cool. There are um, I'm so glad you brought this up because there are a couple of apps that you can put on your phone. And when you go to the store, you just scan the QR code and it'll tell you whether it's a safe product or not. So one is Yucca, and I think it's Y U K Y U K A. I don't know. I'm not sure. I'll link it down below. I do have it on my phone. Um, and then the other one is part of the environmental working group. Yeah, it's yucca, y-u-ka-a, and it looks like a carrot. It's that one right there. Okay. And then there's another one um that the environmental working group um created. And I'm not sure what that one is called, but you can just go to the environmental working group site. And you know, they have a they have a part of their site that's called Skin Deep. And uh let me just see if it's in here. Oh, yeah, it's called Healthy Living. Healthy Living. It's that little green one with the swirls, healthy living. And uh, those are two that you can have on your phone, and then you just scan the QR code and don't buy anything that isn't completely clean. I mean, yeah, anything above two, a two rating, don't buy it because we're exposed to enough toxins already, and that's probably one of our main issues is that we're on toxin overload. And so we can't heal if we have so many toxins that our liver has to deal with, and it just totally clogs up digestion and causes insulin resistance, and it's a mess. So, um, you know, we're exposed to enough toxins already without unconsciously adding them in at home. So, you know, our household products and our, you know, women use a lot of skincare products and shampoos and conditioners and things like that, and spray dry shampoo. And oh my goodness, on the tennis court, the ladies are spraying the sunscreen. I just like freak out. I just have to move away where the wind doesn't blow it in my face. You know, I can't say anything, but it's really, you know, kind of taking me out that we put so much crap on our bodies, and then we expect to feel well. You're like, well, how do you feel well when you're inundating your body with all these toxins? So be smart. You know, I use two household cleaning products, bona me for scrubbing and white vinegar. Like that's it, that's all you need, you know. And then be really smart about your laundry detergent. You know, there's so many great products out there.

SPEAKER_03 57:47

Yeah, I just switched all mine up and I can't remember what the brand is. Um, but if I remember it, I can put it in the show notes. But for just specifically for laundry detergent, because it was like, you know, you get like, I mean, just the smell. One time, I think it was like maybe a few months ago, I I got some bleach out and I was cleaning my bathroom. And I swear, like it like singed like inside of I smelt it for the entire day in my nose. I was like, this is why I don't use this. This is this cannot be good if this is like permeating my senses for this long.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

You become really sensitive to smells. I mean, I can smell someone who's washed their clothes and tied, you know, or or one of those scented lingeres just kind of takes me out. I'm like, oh wow, you know, I don't really have chemical sensitivities, but it really bothers me that smell because perfume is, you know, one of the most toxic things that we can come into contact with. It's so toxic. It's a it's an endocrine disruptor, it's an obesogen. It makes us fat, right? It makes our metabolism sluggish. So all these toxins that are in all these body care products, face creams, all of it, are obesogens.

PMS Cycles And Slowing Down

SPEAKER_03 58:59

Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely good to know and to look into to be able to like make those switches like gradually. The other, the other question that I had for you. So, you know, we talk about uh, or you mentioned, you know, weight gain within a day and acne and like all these other symptoms that seem sometimes to be a symptom of just like PMS or like our menstrual cycle as women, how much of it actually is and like how much because I've noticed for myself, the more I've cleaned up my body and what I'm doing and and moving more, like I actually get very few symptoms around PMS, like hardly any.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

Yeah. And that's how it was for me when I learned how to better take care of myself. I didn't the only symptom I still got was I'm just I was just a little more tired. And I think that that's really it's really important for us to pay attention to how we're feeling. You know, women have a 28-day cycle, men have a 24-hour cycle. We're very different. Let's stop comparing ourselves to men, right? Testosterone, you know, a higher level of testosterone just really makes a difference in how our bodies handle certain things. And um, you know, kind of the first half of the month when the moon is, you know, waxing, that's our energetic outward time. And when, you know, in our you know, luteal phase, you know, the second half of the month, that's when we need to go more inward. I mean to slow down a little bit. Um, rest more, you know, read a book, uh, walk, you know, stop pushing so hard. Give your body a chance to do its thing. There's a lot going on with hormones in that second phase. So give your body a chance. You know, I I would say that that was the biggest thing is I expected to perform the same, you know, every day, no matter what. And that's just not how a woman's body works.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

Yeah. I love that you mentioned the moon too, because I'm just like huge on, you know, astrology and and I think that like cycle of it and understanding where it's at, because you know, just like the moon changes signs every couple of days, like our body does the same. Like we are, in a way, lunar beings, right? I think we always have been.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

We are so connected. And um it's it's really important to pay attention to the cycles, right? Really important to pay attention to the cycles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:16

How so for the woman who's listening that maybe is experiencing a lot of these symptoms, because I know sometimes when it comes down to like, well, you have to change your diet and you have to do this, it can be overwhelming, right? And maybe they're not like super connected with their body or they're just kind of getting in touch with that. What is like the biggest piece of advice, or like what is the biggest thing that you feel like you could leave them with or for them to understand about their body and their hormones?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Well, I think that um kind of our biggest our our our biggest enemy and our biggest issue is between our ears. You know, I I never smoke spoke fondly of my body. I never loved my body. I was always at odds with my body, maybe angry and disappointed and shameful and all of it. And so um when we love something, the energy completely shifts. You know, if you've seen the secret, right, you know that. Um, and so just it's just one thought away, right? It's just one thought away. So probably the biggest gift that we can give ourselves is when a negative thought comes in, just turn it around to a positive thought. We don't have control over what comes in, but we do have control over how long it stays there. So shift it around and start saying, I love my body, I love my body, and then you're choosing yourself, and then the opportunities are come gonna come along. And when you say I love my body, then you're gonna start making choices that really support your body, and you're gonna tune in more. Well, what is it that you need now? You know, what do you need? How can I best support you? And it just it's a game changer, you know. So um uh thoughts become things. So make you know, it's really hard to manage your thoughts when your brain chemistry is out of balance. That's one of the things we need we do in our private program, is help to get your brain chemistry on board soon, uh, so that you have the energy and motivation and you know the positivity to make change happen. But you know, you have more control than you think, and you've got to start shifting those thoughts no matter how hard it is. And you can write down some affirmations that you can just read if your brain starts going OCD. And I love this uh way of looking at things. Whatever you're thinking, it's just weather. Right? Don't take yourself so seriously, it's gonna pass. Yeah, and we take ourselves very seriously, you know, and we need to start laughing. Are you kidding me? You just thought that like seriously, and then shift it around to I love you. You know, holy crap, I love you. You're the best, right? And write down some affirmations that help to get you to where you want to go. I love my body, you know, I'm I have lots of energy, you know, I'm happy with my life, you know, whatever it is that you want for yourself, write that down as an affirmation. You know, Louise Hay had, I think, four stage ovarian cancer, something like that. Yeah. And she didn't do any medical treatments. I'm not suggesting this, by the way, because I think she had magical powers that a lot of us don't have. Um, but she completely reversed it, you know, with her affirmations. And that was before, you know, she became such a big deal and you know, opened Hay House and all of that. So um, our thoughts become things. And my favorite bumper sticker is don't believe everything you think.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

Yeah, right. That's such a huge shift. When I was studying integrative nutrition, one of the things they told us was like any diagnosis that you get, you can Google like spontaneous remission. It could be the worst thing. There's somebody out there that has healed it. And it's just that shift in your mindset from the possibility, right? It's like the what was it, like the four-minute mile, right? That nobody could do it until one person did. And then you realize, oh, it's possible, you know. And I think that shift in your mindset allows you to like get on board, you know, your body will like you'll follow. And I think that, yeah, not believing everything that you think is a huge like shift in in awareness of like, wow, you know, and like you said, like you just kind of have like some of the things that like, yeah, come to mind, you you have to laugh because it's like literally and you have to know that it's gonna blow away, you know, like it's just weather.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

It's just weather. And same thing with everybody else, by the way. You know, if somebody around you is grumpy, just know that it's just weather, it's not it's not about you, right? It's not about you, it's just their weather. And just just remember, you know, those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind. So start finding your peeps, you know, those who live the longest and the healthiest are around people who just get them.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:17

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:18

Yeah.

Programs Assessment And Closing

SPEAKER_03 1:06:19

Well, thank you so much. This has been a fascinating conversation. How can people find you? How can they work with you? And is there anything that you're working on in 2026 that you want to share?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:29

Yeah, so we have um our foundational program for every woman. It's called Robins Hormone Reset that we run in January and May. So whenever you're listening to this, we'd love to have you join us. It's really kind of what you need to know to be well naturally for every single woman. And uh, and then we have for your community, we have a um complete hormone assessment. It's really a game changer. We actually have only offered that in Robin's hormone reset in the past, but um, you know, we don't even know some of the symptoms that are going on in our bodies until we see it. And then we're like, oh yeah, that's happening for me. And then you can see which hormone is affected. And we have a couple of hormones, highs and lows, like for estrogen and for um what's the other one? Estrogen, progen estrogen, we have highs and lows, and cortisol, we have highs and lows. So you'll be so surprised and it'll take away the it's my fault. You know, it's just like, oh, well, this is just low cortisol, or this is high estrogen, or you know, my progesterone's too low for how much estrogen I have. That's one thing we, you know, we blame estrogen for so many of our problems, but we really need her. And what we're doing is we're taking progesterone out because progesterone goes to make cortisol if we're stressed, right? If we're too busy, busy, busy, or if you know, we have too many toxins. So your progesterone gets too low, and then you have all the estrogen dominant symptoms. But estrogen actually most often is not too high, it's just a progesterone is too low. So the complete hormone assessment is very enlightening. And then you'll have an opportunity to do a hormone test with us if you'd like, or um do the reset, depending on what time of year it is. And um, so it's just a great way to really get more familiar with the hormones and really better have a list of you know what's going on with you. Because like me, I ignore so many of the symptoms. And then I'm Instagram is Robin A. Nielsen, um, at Robin A. Nielsen, I believe. And yeah, we have a beautiful Facebook group. Um, natural, is it? I can't remember what it is. Natural solutions hormone balance, something like that. Yeah, but you can find us just by um searching on it. Yeah, so a lot of ways to find us. And um, thank you so much for having me today.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Yeah, of course. Thank you so much. And I'll have everything linked up. So anybody listening that wants to go grab that assessment, wants to follow you anywhere, just go click the link below and it'll take you right there. Thank you so much. Thank you.